I need I live in Ky where there is one finest teaching hositals in the country wish one of them but do not know how to go about getting an oncologist and other drs I need I am so scared it isn't funny. If ther ate any drs out there please please help me. I am despirite. I have never heard of weaning off of a med by opening a capsule. Have you tried another med? I switched from Effexor XR Mg. I am doing ok with it. I would never consider opening a capsule, please be careful.
Are you really sure you want to come off this medication? Depression doesnt usually just go away. It is a chemical imbalance and the medication helps produce the chemical that is needed. Re: Brenda 5 Don't be fooled Brenda Good luck to all for coming off of this terrible recipe! Hi, personally I had no withdrawals from Effexor. I was taking mg daily and felt like someone else so I just quit, no problem. Now for depression , I live in Oregon so I consume cannabis when depressed.
Or I just deal with it, play my harmonica or something. Best of luck. My history with Effexor is long long. If I go 36 hrs I feel nauseas and dizzy. I used to be able to taper from 75 to Now - no decrease. They help - but at what cost. Being unable to decrease is terrifying for real damage. I was afraid to drive or even be around other people.
I never thought to taper w beads. I was mostly in bed for a month and then it took another few months for my body to adjust. A year to not feel the dark cloud of depression. I took for postpartum depression but stayed on Bc it was supposed to help w hormonal migraines. As it turns out it was causing my migraines to be worse! For my body, this was a horrible drug and an evil tapering experience. Re: Brenda 5 That was kind of my question.
And since he's having such a problem eliminating it I wonder if he should be. But then I thought about how these medications affected me and everyone of them put me closer to a deeper depression I didn't realize how horribly I had been affected till I got off of them and can look back and think how horribly depressed I had gotten.
I don't cry for days on end anymore in fact I rarely feel depressed at all of course they were never prescribed for depression but anxiety but after they had their affect I had gotten depressed , hopeless. When I attempted to get off of them of course I was never told to taper them and so I just stopped. I went through months with what I called brain zaps where I'd get what felt like a jolt of electricity in my head.
I was so bad it would leave me doubled over holding onto the wall or whatever was close. I am confused because I thought the name was just venlafaxine If I keep telling him this I will end up with the 3 mini pill ones. I have purchased my scales the Gemini ones and when I feel strong enough I would like to try the capsules.
Has anyone any idea what he is talking about, I feel like I am going around in circles. He asks for the correct name, I tell him and he says that's obviously not it. Think I am going mad Dec - mg venlafaxine. Back up to 75mg as agitated, and sobbing uncontrolably. Back down to Summer started cutting down by 2? No cuts since then until now but on 17th March lost voice and terrible cough which still have on 30th March.
Still on 50mg clomipramine as well. Got down to about half of a Obviously not the thing to do as have had no meds at all now for over 3 years and still feeling terrific protracted withdrawal. Some of the generics contain the larger tablets inside a capsule. Other generics contain beads, but I don't know what these are called or even if they're available in the UK. You'd have to talk to a pharmacist to find out which ones contain the beads. That's the problem I was having. The pharmacist said he doesn't know what I am talking about.
He said the suppliers who supply the medication only have the mini pill ones. I feel I had to find out myself, but don't know where to start. He got quite huffy and said talk to the gp and the gp said talk to the chemist. I am afraid that it will work out that I can't get the This is all hell.
I feel that I am trying to help myself but am going around and around. You could ask you chemist to check the brain name and see if it is the tablets we know it isn't I tried to find a link for you about generic effexor complaints to help you in convincing him to give you brand name I don't think he should have any issue giving you the brand name however you will have to pay for it As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in five years after the accident.
I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior There is a crack in everything..
That's how the light gets in. My question is if I can only get the capsule in 75mg I am on Yes you can do this, however since it is in a capsule form and I presume with these capsules at least in my own experience have several beads in them. Many people will taper by reducing the dosage of 75mg by eliminating beads.
Since you are on It must be counted the beads to get the correct dose I am not aware of Venaflaxine coming in a Once you have counted the beads and have your There may be other posts on this subject and you may be able to view other's experience with this drug within this site.. If you have never tapered before I would become comfortable with reading the possible symtoms you may endure as well as look at the various forums to educate yourself on self- care during this process and also go to www.
Wish you well on your journey to become drug free I have been tapering vanlafaxine by counting beads from the capsule. Alternatively it is available in the UK as a liquid. Otherwise, you would have to count half the beads out of every capsule. To do this, you'll have to count the beads in several 75mg capsules and figure out how many, on average, account for half. That is, if you can get 75mg venlafaxine capsules filled with tiny beads. Many of the generics available in the UK seem to be filled with 3 large pellets.
That will make taking The most accurate way to taper venlafaxine is with a liquid made from immediate-release venlafaxine, but you may have to take it 2 or 3 times a day. Thanks for replying. I have been withdrawing and was taking mg originally and it has taken me about two years to get to this. What Alto says above is good advice Terms of Use Privacy Policy. Share More sharing options Followers Recommended Posts. Lexy Posted January 12, Posted January 12, Thank you Alto It's amazing how you help everyone here.
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Altostrata Posted February 12, Posted February 12, You may be very sensitive to dosage changes. Should weighing make any difference?
Thank you. Sept - Zopliclone for ten weeks paranoia ended a couple of months after coming off this and sleep settled down again until the last couple of months. March - June went down quickly 1mg a day until I got stuck at 25mg, went up to 27mg, because couldn't breath. Since the kidney infection at start of September, have been in constant pain and anxiety, no let up. Given Ciprofloxacin. Altostrata 14 posts. Superwoman 22 posts.
Holly26 10 posts. June 12, I have finished my effexor taper and want to share my method for tapering the last few beads. When I was at 4 beads I couldn't get down to 3 without withdrawal, tried alternating 3 one day 4 the next.
January 13, Aurobindo are idiots. For some drugs the capsule itself is part of the time release mechanism. The capsule can be formulated to dissolve at a specific rate so the medication is delivered to the correct part of the digestiv. InNeed, I believe you're extremely sensitive. An electronic digital jeweler's scale probably would be a good investment for you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
For example, if you are taking 75mg Effexor XR and wish to reduce to 70mg, rather than counting out beads or weighing them yourself, you can ask your doctor to write a prescription for the compounding pharmacy to follow to make enough 70mg capsules for a month. The compounding pharmacy will open up Effexor XR capsules, weigh out 70mg doses, and put them in new gelatin or vegetarian, by request capsules. Contact your compounding pharmacy to see how they would want such instructions written in a prescription.
Note: It may be less expensive for you for the compounding pharmacy to open the larger mg Effexor XR capsules and repackage them into 70mg doses. Fewer capsules of the larger dosage will be used. The size of the beads doesn't matter -- they'll be weighed.
Check with the compounding pharmacy to see how you will be charged for this. In Effexor XR, I believe the filler is combined with the drug inside each bead. The capsules are filled by weight; this wouldn't make sense unless there was a consistent ratio of filler to drug in each capsule. The beads vary slightly in size, that's what causes the dosage variation while counting beads.
If you are sensitive to this variation, weighing with a digital scale will be more exact. I too plan on getting a digital scale - not sure where from, will probably look on ebay. I must be a bit strange - i kind of enjoy the counting Then i get a butter knife and group them into five bead groups and scoop them into the capsule. That's how i worked out the numbers are different in each capsule - once i started counting IN rather than counting OUT.
I have a blank table printed out that i fill in the date and number of beads, I do a 3 week supply at a time and put them into an empty pill container. At the end of the 3 weeks i can decide whether i want to do another week on that dosage or proceed to the next decrease. I have started to think in terms of beads rather than dosage - i am now on 60 beads which is somewhere between 15 and 17mg. I think it is important to have at least 2 consistent weeks of feeling good after any withdrawal symptoms before going down to the next dosage.
If you are feeling at all fragile, please hold on And be kind to yourself, you are doing great! Started in - On mg most of the time, but up to mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed not too much anxiety 6 months later Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on. Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter Jan - July 75mg down to If you are truly taking If this works, you could make a liquid from regular Effexor. Unfortunately regular effexor tabs are no longer available in Australia. I noticed my Effexor XL capsules don't all weigh the same. The weight of the beads ranges from approx.
Does this mean a the capsules contain slightly different doses, or every capsule contains 75mg Effexor, therefore, the capsules with more beads must contain less Effexor per bead?
If this is the case, should I be weighing the total amount of beads in each capsule, then halving this to get approx Right now I'm just weighing out 89mg beads. That is a question for the manufacturer. Could be they have a quality control error worthy of complaint to a central agency.
Or, could be that variation is permitted -- but it does seem like a huge difference! When i told my Dr the difference in the number of beads in a capsule her immediate response was quality control..
I don't have any 75mg or mg capsules left, but it would be interesting if someone who did have some could weigh those and see if there is much variation. If there wasn't much variation in those capsules then maybe it would be worth using them - cheaper too - a mg capsule would last me about 8 days! When i look at it that way, i have come down a lot! If you take mg as 75mg active ingedient, which is what I've been doing, the dose varies from 75 - 82mg.
Do the manufacturers base the dose on the weight of the beads? If so, then each capsule must have slightly different doses, so I'm safe weighing out 89mg, as it will be the same dose each time. I think this must be true because I've read about a boy having problems tapering off Effexor. He was removing beads from each capsule every so often, but some days he had really bad withdrawal. He discovered it was because each capsule contained different amounts of beads, so he started counting them out, which seemed to solve his problem and he eventually got off.
Yes, I just weighed the beads from a few capsules and found - mg, mg, mg, mg. It's a generic called "Rodomel XL". Read my intro thread here , and check the about me section.
I've been preparing my capsules a little differently this week, as I believe it's a more accurate way to do it. It's a 3 step process -. I also found calibrating the scale before weighing each set of beads really helps. I had issues switching to generic from brand name and my dr agreed that there is a wide margin allowed for "error" I noticed, when I switched from one type of venlafaxine to another that the white beads were coming out in the toilet, undigested at all!!!!!
The pharmacists will deny this, but my dr didn't deny it, he is as disgusted by the drug companies as his patients are. Tried Celexa,Cipralex, then Paxil to deal with wd this switching made things worse and added akathesia. Found online support and started tapering Paxil 7 months after quitting Effexor at this point was having small windows. Year 4 June 1. Given the recall of Teva generic Wellbutrin XL, it's clear the generic makers might have quality control issues.
There have been similar recalls for psychiatric drugs from the major pharma companies, too. I had switched from brand name and back without as much difficulty but it was this particular switch that started the ball rolling.
It was never the same since. I never again reached stability and eventaully came off and the rest is history. However if none of that had happened, I may have stayed on these meds for years and never had the courage to attempt getting off them. I Really have had no choice, but maybe that's a blessing. In the Effexor XR capsules you've been prescribed, approximately how many milligrams does 6 beads represent? To calculate the milligrams, you will either have to weigh all the beads in a few capsules without the capsule itself and weigh 6 beads with a digital scale OR count the number of beads in a few capsules to get an average number of beads per capsule.
Once you find this out, you can convert to regular Effexor and make a liquid from it take twice a day. This will enable you to make smaller decreases in dosage than reducing bead by bead. Each bead can be roughly 1mg; with a liquid, you can reduce by a fraction of a milligram. I think I'm going to try the bead counting method from now on.
I've tried using the 10g weight but it didn't make any difference. Hopefully there's less variation in bead size compared to the amount of variation caused by the scales. They do look roughly the same size. I am down to the last 4 beads. There are beads in my 75 mg capsules so that is a teeny dose. I feel ready for my next drop. Last time I went down to 3 I had to go back up to 4 because of withdrawal. At the time. I was under stress which didn't help. I tried the liquid and had to go back to beads because of allergic reaction to something in.
I am reluctant to try making a liquid from tablets because that will mean a change of brand and I am so sensitive. I read about some people on lower doses have alternated doses
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